Here in the real world.........

**centennialdawg** · April 24th, 2010, 03:43 PM

Just sitting in my hospital room after doing some physical therapy(walking the halls with my walker) and was pondering the effects of the Obama health plan. There are 3 guards from the federal prison in Lee county guarding an inmate who apparently got into a fight with another inmate the other day. I guess they get really good healthcare while in prison now, and, will the government make them pay a fine for not having health insurance like most of us on the "outside"?

**Unchained** · April 24th, 2010, 04:28 PM

Friend you have no idea just how bitter I get when I have to escort a murderer,child molester,rapist...etc to the hospital to get quality medical that you and I on the street cannot afford,yet we have to pay for his. I'll stop now before I blow a fuse. BTW hope your PT is going well.

**centennialdawg** · April 24th, 2010, 05:40 PM

I had to have the knee joint replaced again

This one seems to really be doing a lot better as I am already able to "bear" full weight on it. I'll tell ya, man, this doctor seems to really be able to do wonders with repairing the Veteran's administration's goof-ups. I just wish he had been around 10 years ago. Just to be able to walk without the aid of a brace is a miracle. And everything else he thought was wrong, he fixed, too. It feels really great.

**Biggin** · April 24th, 2010, 05:57 PM

I understand where you are coming from, but what is a solution? How can it be fixed?

Deny prisoners health care? That is not a logical solution, if we start refusing prisoners health care, we are no better than some of those 3rd world countries.

It does suck to see a murder get healthcare while I cannot afford it, but I understand why.

Its also a huge reason why the health care bill was passed.

**1inStripes** · April 24th, 2010, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

Its also a huge reason why the health care bill was passed.

Please tell me you just didn't go there. Was reading today before leaving work on Yahoo that it appears as though healthcare costs are rising since the health insurance plan has been passed. (Lets be honest, this wasn't truly a healtcare plan that done anything to actually improve healthcare, just to boost insurance practices, and the drug makers once you look at it.)

**Biggin** · April 25th, 2010, 10:00 PM

What I was getting at was that theres no excuse for prisoners being able to go to the hospital and be treated with great care while the average person would get crushed by the medical bills for one tenth of that care.

**sup-rbeast** · April 26th, 2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by 1inStripes

Please tell me you just didn't go there. Was reading today before leaving work on Yahoo that it appears as though healthcare costs are rising since the health insurance plan has been passed. (Lets be honest, this wasn't truly a healtcare plan that done anything to actually improve healthcare, just to boost insurance practices, and the drug makers once you look at it.)

At least something was done...even if it has to be "fixed" in the future. Had it gone through as it was initially conceived, it would have been much better. The partisan wrangling eliminated much of the good points that would have immediately brought costs down such as the public option. But, I think within the next decade or so that will be a reality as well. I'm like UTVols2, anything that will bring my premiums down is what I'm for...regardless of who sponsors it. As far as prisoners go, funding their health care is just one of the prices we pay to be the country we are. It's not exactly right, but that's how it goes sometimes.

**Unchained** · April 24th, 2010, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by centennialdawg

I had to have the knee joint replaced again

This one seems to really be doing a lot better as I am already able to "bear" full weight on it. I'll tell ya, man, this doctor seems to really be able to do wonders with repairing the Veteran's administration's goof-ups. I just wish he had been around 10 years ago. Just to be able to walk without the aid of a brace is a miracle. And everything else he thought was wrong, he fixed, too. It feels really great.

The VA and it's doctors (at least the 2 that I have spent alot of time in with loved ones-Salem and JC respectively) are terrible-not much better than a MASH unit. I'm glad that you finally found a good doctor.

**starbuck** · April 24th, 2010, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by centennialdawg

I had to have the knee joint replaced again

This one seems to really be doing a lot better as I am already able to "bear" full weight on it. I'll tell ya, man, this doctor seems to really be able to do wonders with repairing the Veteran's administration's goof-ups. I just wish he had been around 10 years ago. Just to be able to walk without the aid of a brace is a miracle. And everything else he thought was wrong, he fixed, too. It feels really great.

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congrats on things improving.

**SBG** · April 24th, 2010, 09:57 PM

Biggin, does an inmate really deserve healthcare? Honestly, if they murder, rape, molest, etc. why should they be treated that well? If they're to have halthcare then the quality of that healthcare should be determined by their crime and sentence. Or at least have differing levels of care for low, medium, and high level institutions.

Centennialdawg, I'm glad your doing better. I'll send up a prayer for your continued and complete recuperation.